WTF #9,841

Nov. 9th, 2007 01:22 pm
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This whole Dog the Bounty Hunter controversy disturbs me. Why is this even news? It was a private conversation. How in the fuck does it matter what horrible things you say in private? This is even more insane than Imus getting fired. Can we no longer say nigger in private? Oops. I mean the "n" word.

I caught a couple minutes of Dog on Larry King the other night. Really nice crocodile tears buddy. I don't watch his show, but it's pretty plain he's an unfrozen neanderthal. So ultra-right-wing GOD BLESS AMERICA KILL'EM ALL LET GOD SORT'EM OUT memes are to be expected. Still, good acting there on LK dude, seriously.

It's all probably just character assisination, but the free speech implications are scary. Just like in the Imus case, I know it's not a political issue, but it IS a cultural issue. It seems we're growing more intolerant of people saying things we don't like. Or at least more tolerant of social persecution of those people. If we're willing to let people be ostracized for their views and expression by other people, we're probably well down the road of not caring if the gov't does so as well. It's easy as hell to defend speech you agree with.

"But isn't offensive and unpopular speech exactly the kind that needs protecting?"--George Carlin

And oh, nigger. Sounds like a tasty snack. New Nabisco® Niggers! (Now in Halle Berry Caramel flavor.)

Date: 2007-11-09 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jezebelleinhell.livejournal.com
CERTAIN people can say whatever they darn well lease but if you are a majority person you better keep your mouth shut 'cause you can't say squat.

Date: 2007-11-09 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nellorat.livejournal.com
To me, the fascinating thing is that his own son taped the conversation and sold the tape to the press. OK, some kind of dysfunctional relationship going on there!

Date: 2007-11-09 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loosechanj.livejournal.com
I honestly can't believe anyone is actually shocked.

Date: 2007-11-09 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shaden.livejournal.com
very.. well.. said.

although i dont like that language, i certainly defend the right for people to use it when they so feel the need, especially in private.

ugh

Date: 2007-11-09 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seahorsemystic.livejournal.com
in this case, no one can trust anyone any more. Family, included. Hell, especially family.

Date: 2007-11-09 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ianthes.livejournal.com
I agree. The whole situation is stupid. It was a private conversation. Everyone makes mistakes. And, so what? While this person is being hung up and flogged for his language, rappers and other "artists" are making millions saying the same thing - and more. At least, Dog has some good excuses for why he said it.

Why don't we ever react this way when someone calls a woman a "fat cow" or a bitch? Or, when mentally challenged people are called retarded or stupid? Or, overweight people who are called names,

and on, and on, and on...

Date: 2007-11-09 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loosechanj.livejournal.com
Mentally challenged people *are* "retarded". WTF does mentally challenged even mean? It's a "nice" word, meant to change our perceptions. It doesn't make anyone smarter, it doesn't make anyone more capable. It doesn't change *anything*. The term is simply a very crude attempt at mind control. Almost all PC language is really just NewSpeak.

Besides, I'm mentally challenged when I do lots of things. It doesn't mean I'm stupid, it means I'm stretching my boundries.

Date: 2007-11-09 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tormentedartist.livejournal.com
Mentally challenged people *are* "retarded".

LOL.

Date: 2007-11-10 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ianthes.livejournal.com
I didn't realize you were retarded, sorry. ;)

Seriously, I see your point. Although, I'm not convinced that the term "mentally challenged" is an attempt at mind control. I think it's more an attempt at sounding less harsh than retarded. Yet, then again, I've sort of negated my entire point by using that phrase. So, going back to the original point of my post - I agree with you that too much time is being spent on what one man has said in a private conversation.

Date: 2007-11-10 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deepshiite.livejournal.com
i can still say midgets, right?

Date: 2007-11-10 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loosechanj.livejournal.com
I don't think so.

Date: 2007-11-10 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] splatterhouse.livejournal.com
I couldn't agree any more. When he said "I'd kill myself if it would make things right" I wanted to punch him in his fucking pussy pandering face.

Date: 2007-11-10 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loosechanj.livejournal.com
I just realized how "OH lord I have sinned against you" that moment was.

Date: 2007-11-10 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loosechanj.livejournal.com
He should do "Dog the hall monitor". That would rock.

Date: 2007-11-10 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loosechanj.livejournal.com
Imagine him taking down the fat kid from Head of the Class.

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